Comments by Phatline
good idea to use the live.grid itself as sequencer ;-) - to bad that it only have 2 states 0 and 1 ...
Posted on January 08 2011 by Phatline |
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i also have to try this
i also have to try this
YESSSS! very cool live tool.
the part with the modulo12 option I dont understand! ? is this a extra patch, or is it the opposite from "regular-option"???
the part with the modulo12 option I dont understand! ? is this a extra patch, or is it the opposite from "regular-option"???
Update to Version 5:
*More CPU saving that V4, but more CPU using that V1...
*No Browsing anymore - just drag and drop the sample(path)
*Reduced Filesize from 900kb to 600kb
*Deleting of the Pitch-LFO... In Livesituations the PITCH ADR-Attakc/Depth - for me is enough
*Clean up
*Dualband compression bevore (pre) Distiortion/VCA/VCF
*Ringmod
*Prelisten
*AMP-ADR-Decay now can modulatet with the Midi-Velocity
*AMP-ADR-Decay can now be in fix time, or scaled with the sample time
*AMP-ADR-Release can now also scaled with a numbox for your wishes....
Ideas for V6:
Deleting Filter ADR...because of not using it in Livesituations.
Cleaning
Reduce CPU-Load and filesize....
Debug the problem, that sampleB is not loadet automaticly in the sample engine (workaround up to now is, press the sample-bank-select-button 2 times @ liveset startup)
...But after that - this project will be finished.
*More CPU saving that V4, but more CPU using that V1...
*No Browsing anymore - just drag and drop the sample(path)
*Reduced Filesize from 900kb to 600kb
*Deleting of the Pitch-LFO... In Livesituations the PITCH ADR-Attakc/Depth - for me is enough
*Clean up
*Dualband compression bevore (pre) Distiortion/VCA/VCF
*Ringmod
*Prelisten
*AMP-ADR-Decay now can modulatet with the Midi-Velocity
*AMP-ADR-Decay can now be in fix time, or scaled with the sample time
*AMP-ADR-Release can now also scaled with a numbox for your wishes....
Ideas for V6:
Deleting Filter ADR...because of not using it in Livesituations.
Cleaning
Reduce CPU-Load and filesize....
Debug the problem, that sampleB is not loadet automaticly in the sample engine (workaround up to now is, press the sample-bank-select-button 2 times @ liveset startup)
...But after that - this project will be finished.
uups - done. (its always the problem here when a device need a send and a receiver...so one patch = 2 patches... and people got trouble when downloading them...because of not finding the other patch...)
high latency? midi - Nochsimpler - audio = 1.5ms
think its normal for a sample based max effect.
ahh and a new version is online - now poly 2x.
think its normal for a sample based max effect.
ahh and a new version is online - now poly 2x.
update: I had now some time to jam a few ours and days...I debuged the whole thing & now it should work
ah I have forgotten:
If you activate the "learn Mode" and activate "Reset Preset" all Settings are init @ now the Launchpad controlls nothing (press this bevore you setup the patch the first time - or if you want to erase it and make it completely new)
If you activate the "learn Mode" and activate "Reset Preset" all Settings are init @ now the Launchpad controlls nothing (press this bevore you setup the patch the first time - or if you want to erase it and make it completely new)
1. Press Learn Mode - so the Button shows a "X"
2. Press Refresh > All the tracks in track will be scanned
3. Press "Select Device"
> A pull up menu comes - you have to select the device which you want to remote
4. Press "Select Controll" - A pull up menu comes - this shows the launchpad buttons - NOTE: Only one parameter can be controlled via one Launchpad button!
5. Press "Parameter" - a pull up menu comes - it shows the controlls from the selectet Device (see 3.)
---When you select now a parameter - it get stored - the button will now controll the parameter (after you turned on the device)
If you now select a other paramter for the Selectet Controller- it will be overwritten and the last Parameter will be stored.
6. Select a other Controller (see 4.) and make the same as in 5. (but a other paramter - you cant controll one live parameter twice) ---or select a new Device and then a new parameter...
Importend: the "Select Parameter" will send the Data to the storage ---so this always will be the last step!
7. If you are now ready then press "Learn Mode" againg- this will save all Data with the liveset! If you now close the liveset and open it again- the settings are still there.
8. Press Scan - this scan your Remote Devices - it will only shows Devices that are activatet in the german so called "Bedienoberfl?che" Menue (Ableton /Preferences/MidiSync/ the list @ the top) You have not to activate something in the "midiport" men?...disable here the remotes... (but you must not) because I have written this programm - to remote things with launchpad by deactivating the midiports because of: >>> APCs and Launchpads have all the same Midichanals Notes and CCs... so the will conflict...that because my programm- to become no midifeedback!!!!
---Ok press SCAN- then Select your Device (Launchpad)
9. Press "Power" (it will get "X"ed) -
10. Press Usermode 2 @ the Launchpad - Maybe some led now will light orange- this indicates: A remotet Ableton Slider or button is turned on---if the LP stay "lightless" the parameters are turned off (button value 0: no light - button value 127: orange)
Now the Patch remotes the Liveparameters - you see that when you look @ the remotet Ableton Button or Slider- that it is grayed out after Switching to Launchpads Usermode 2 button...
If you Press "session mode" it goes back to session mode.... press usermode 2 again, you will remote the buttons againg....
When you now save the Liveset and restart it, you only have to do 8. 9. 10. > Press Scan > Select Launchpad > Press Power.
Note: If you add new Audio or Midi Tracks the Setting will get lost (or make something differnt)---That is because - the Patch Save:
1. Track number
2. Device number
3 Parameter number...
So when you have 3 Tracks, and you controll something in the second track, and you now make a new track between track 1 and 2 it will still controll the second track - the old 2nd Track is now the 3rd Track and the 3rd is not remotet because of the way The patch saves the data...
But if you control something in the 2nd Track and now add a 4th track - the Patch still remotes the 2nd Track - Track number- device number - 3 paramter number --- logical!
I havent testet it up to now for a long time (no liveact hardcoretest) But for me it worked up to now.
2. Press Refresh > All the tracks in track will be scanned
3. Press "Select Device"
> A pull up menu comes - you have to select the device which you want to remote
4. Press "Select Controll" - A pull up menu comes - this shows the launchpad buttons - NOTE: Only one parameter can be controlled via one Launchpad button!
5. Press "Parameter" - a pull up menu comes - it shows the controlls from the selectet Device (see 3.)
---When you select now a parameter - it get stored - the button will now controll the parameter (after you turned on the device)
If you now select a other paramter for the Selectet Controller- it will be overwritten and the last Parameter will be stored.
6. Select a other Controller (see 4.) and make the same as in 5. (but a other paramter - you cant controll one live parameter twice) ---or select a new Device and then a new parameter...
Importend: the "Select Parameter" will send the Data to the storage ---so this always will be the last step!
7. If you are now ready then press "Learn Mode" againg- this will save all Data with the liveset! If you now close the liveset and open it again- the settings are still there.
8. Press Scan - this scan your Remote Devices - it will only shows Devices that are activatet in the german so called "Bedienoberfl?che" Menue (Ableton /Preferences/MidiSync/ the list @ the top) You have not to activate something in the "midiport" men?...disable here the remotes... (but you must not) because I have written this programm - to remote things with launchpad by deactivating the midiports because of: >>> APCs and Launchpads have all the same Midichanals Notes and CCs... so the will conflict...that because my programm- to become no midifeedback!!!!
---Ok press SCAN- then Select your Device (Launchpad)
9. Press "Power" (it will get "X"ed) -
10. Press Usermode 2 @ the Launchpad - Maybe some led now will light orange- this indicates: A remotet Ableton Slider or button is turned on---if the LP stay "lightless" the parameters are turned off (button value 0: no light - button value 127: orange)
Now the Patch remotes the Liveparameters - you see that when you look @ the remotet Ableton Button or Slider- that it is grayed out after Switching to Launchpads Usermode 2 button...
If you Press "session mode" it goes back to session mode.... press usermode 2 again, you will remote the buttons againg....
When you now save the Liveset and restart it, you only have to do 8. 9. 10. > Press Scan > Select Launchpad > Press Power.
Note: If you add new Audio or Midi Tracks the Setting will get lost (or make something differnt)---That is because - the Patch Save:
1. Track number
2. Device number
3 Parameter number...
So when you have 3 Tracks, and you controll something in the second track, and you now make a new track between track 1 and 2 it will still controll the second track - the old 2nd Track is now the 3rd Track and the 3rd is not remotet because of the way The patch saves the data...
But if you control something in the 2nd Track and now add a 4th track - the Patch still remotes the 2nd Track - Track number- device number - 3 paramter number --- logical!
I havent testet it up to now for a long time (no liveact hardcoretest) But for me it worked up to now.
I have optimized now the V2 (1xAPC40 & 1xLP)
should be more stable! and have more functions:
LP: Vol - Clear Button
LP: Pan - Copy the first 8 steps to the next 64
LP: Snd B - Copy all Clip Data in a temp - coll
LP: Snd A - Paste all Clip Date from the temp Coll to the clip.
LP: Learn - Set Velocity 60
LP: View - Set Velocity 90
LP: Page Left - Set Velocity 127
LP: Page Right - Play button (active by turned off Autoplay button)
LP: Session - Autoplay
LP: Autopage - switch dependend of the loop length the pages autoamticly
APC: Track Stop Buttons - select Pages (SHIFT: select clips)
APC: Master Stop Button - Shift switch (not a toggle - a button!)
APC: Scene Launch Buttons - select Pages (Shift: clip banks)
APC: Solo Button - Set loop length stepwise (Shift: 8 Steps @ once)
APC: Rec LEDs - indicates Running LED
Prepare the Liveset:
Make a new Miditrack - it must be the first Miditrack!
Make now 64 new empty miditracks.
Activate the APC as Controllsourface in Midi options
Press the Rescan Button, the select APC and the Launchpad. turn on the Max Device....
-Now Learning by doing!
should be more stable! and have more functions:
LP: Vol - Clear Button
LP: Pan - Copy the first 8 steps to the next 64
LP: Snd B - Copy all Clip Data in a temp - coll
LP: Snd A - Paste all Clip Date from the temp Coll to the clip.
LP: Learn - Set Velocity 60
LP: View - Set Velocity 90
LP: Page Left - Set Velocity 127
LP: Page Right - Play button (active by turned off Autoplay button)
LP: Session - Autoplay
LP: Autopage - switch dependend of the loop length the pages autoamticly
APC: Track Stop Buttons - select Pages (SHIFT: select clips)
APC: Master Stop Button - Shift switch (not a toggle - a button!)
APC: Scene Launch Buttons - select Pages (Shift: clip banks)
APC: Solo Button - Set loop length stepwise (Shift: 8 Steps @ once)
APC: Rec LEDs - indicates Running LED
Prepare the Liveset:
Make a new Miditrack - it must be the first Miditrack!
Make now 64 new empty miditracks.
Activate the APC as Controllsourface in Midi options
Press the Rescan Button, the select APC and the Launchpad. turn on the Max Device....
-Now Learning by doing!
I have firefox, and here it works... so if you have the freedom to choice the browser...then try a other browser ;-)
(download works)
(download works)
einfach einen miditrack machen
er soll vor allen anderen - der erste track (ganz links sein)
Und jetzt ne ganze menge neuer Midiclips dort machen (einfach doppelclick auf ein leeres feld---und dann duplizieren) 40 sollten f?rn anfang gen?gen.
er soll vor allen anderen - der erste track (ganz links sein)
Und jetzt ne ganze menge neuer Midiclips dort machen (einfach doppelclick auf ein leeres feld---und dann duplizieren) 40 sollten f?rn anfang gen?gen.
this version has a self triggering mod and a simple filter... just an expirement!
http://www.phatline.at/m4l/4-4Maschine-self-triggerd.amxd
http://www.phatline.at/m4l/4-4Maschine-self-triggerd.png
http://www.phatline.at/m4l/4-4Maschine-self-triggerd.amxd
http://www.phatline.at/m4l/4-4Maschine-self-triggerd.png
im prinzip funzt nur V1 mit APC only.
weil alle anderen sind speziell f?r bestimmte kombinationen von kontrollern gedacht... ich habs ihrgendwann aufgegeben, ein programm zu schreiben das f?r alle verschiedenen Controller und kombinationen gleichzeitig funzt - die Datei wird dadurch riesig, das Programm selbst l?uft nicht mehr stabil, die system last steigt, das editieren ist ein alptraum, die ?bersicht schwindet... jop und so weiter...
du k?nntest dir aber die V2 editieren, das sie f?r APC only l?uft. du m?sstest dir halt 8 Buttons ihrgendwo auf deine APC zuweisen...eben diese 8 Buttons die am Launchpad zugewiesen sind sieht man hier: (http://www.phatline.at/m4l/V2.png)
80 100 127 > Aut A.Page Cpy und SHIFT m?ssten woanders hingeroutet werden...
Wenn ich zeit hab werde ich alle Versionen nochmal ?berarbeiten.
Ne Launchpad (1xLP) only Version werd ich morgen raufladen...
APC only wird noch daueren, da ich grad an der 4xLaunchpad version, und der Verbesserung der buggenden 2xLaunchpad version drann bin.
Am wochenende, nochmal reinschauen, vieleicht tut sich bis dahin was!
greets phat
weil alle anderen sind speziell f?r bestimmte kombinationen von kontrollern gedacht... ich habs ihrgendwann aufgegeben, ein programm zu schreiben das f?r alle verschiedenen Controller und kombinationen gleichzeitig funzt - die Datei wird dadurch riesig, das Programm selbst l?uft nicht mehr stabil, die system last steigt, das editieren ist ein alptraum, die ?bersicht schwindet... jop und so weiter...
du k?nntest dir aber die V2 editieren, das sie f?r APC only l?uft. du m?sstest dir halt 8 Buttons ihrgendwo auf deine APC zuweisen...eben diese 8 Buttons die am Launchpad zugewiesen sind sieht man hier: (http://www.phatline.at/m4l/V2.png)
80 100 127 > Aut A.Page Cpy und SHIFT m?ssten woanders hingeroutet werden...
Wenn ich zeit hab werde ich alle Versionen nochmal ?berarbeiten.
Ne Launchpad (1xLP) only Version werd ich morgen raufladen...
APC only wird noch daueren, da ich grad an der 4xLaunchpad version, und der Verbesserung der buggenden 2xLaunchpad version drann bin.
Am wochenende, nochmal reinschauen, vieleicht tut sich bis dahin was!
greets phat
YES- usefull live tool!
I addet a "NOTE THRU" Function that bypasses the random for one note... so everything except kickdrum will be randomed...
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</code></pre>
I addet a "NOTE THRU" Function that bypasses the random for one note... so everything except kickdrum will be randomed...
<pre><code>
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hell yeah great!
The V3 is now a Launchpads version, it works with 2 Launchpads :)
kannst jetzt 2 launchpads vertical benutzen - soll hei?en 14 drumtracks... + ein paar neue praktische features wie -copy- nimmt die ersen 8 steps und kopiert sie auf die anderen 64 steps...
zuerst ?ber 8steps also grundbeat programmieren, dann auf 64 duplizieren - ein paar variationen und fertisch is der beat!
kannst jetzt 2 launchpads vertical benutzen - soll hei?en 14 drumtracks... + ein paar neue praktische features wie -copy- nimmt die ersen 8 steps und kopiert sie auf die anderen 64 steps...
zuerst ?ber 8steps also grundbeat programmieren, dann auf 64 duplizieren - ein paar variationen und fertisch is der beat!
hmm, weinachtsurlaub is vorbei... vieleicht raff ich mich wiedermal auf, und mach einen launchpad support... ich betreibe den sequencer geradem mit ner APC40 + 1xLaunchpad ... hab aber noch ein Launchpad daheim liegen... die n?chste Version wird also f?r 1xAPC und 2xLaunchpad funken... Launchpad only? willst haben, und das nur f?r ein Ger?t? hmm schau ma mal vieleicht das wochenende!
if you have already with that simple thing a problem, -why then you buyed ableton live -hahahahahaha -holy cow?!
mark:
http://www.phatline.at/m4l/CLIP-SQ-V2.amxd
press:
strg c
go to your browsers adress line, clear it, then press:
strg v
get it?
mark:
http://www.phatline.at/m4l/CLIP-SQ-V2.amxd
press:
strg c
go to your browsers adress line, clear it, then press:
strg v
get it?
load this!
http://www.phatline.at/m4l/CLIP-SQ-V2.amxd
its the V2 and in much points preconfiguratet for the APC ---but for Launchpad you will have problems... i dont support it -but in future...
http://www.phatline.at/m4l/CLIP-SQ-V2.amxd
its the V2 and in much points preconfiguratet for the APC ---but for Launchpad you will have problems... i dont support it -but in future...